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Hi. I dont use Stims much, haven't used one in six months since I started a new program centered around cutting, usually a cupa coffe does it for me early in the morning or ANS Diablo which brings a little ping but leaves me going to bed a bit late (taken at early mornings), Pro Supps DNPX gave some feel good energy previously but haven't tried that in a while. I am pretty intolerant to Creatine Mono (gives mood swings for the worse which is also a documented thing with a handful of people).

Recently tried Pro Supps Hyde after reading good reviews about it, cant say I am impressed, taste is alright but with about 500mg of Caffeine, it doesn't really give me any energy, I get nothing out of a scoop, if anything makes me lazy and kinda sleepy. Lol. anybody had this with certain supplements? So far I have only read a couple of people who feel this way about pro sups hyde. Anybody wana exchange?

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Don't trust DNPX for anything more than a quick buzz. That shit'll take you to the moon, and send you crashing just as fast. Best used very sparingly as your tolerance builds up stonkingly fast to that!


Now, with Mr Hyde...

The primary ingredient in Hyde is the 30mg of 'bitter orange' synephrine and 200mg of N-methyl L tyramine, which when coupled with the di caffeine malate and caffeine itself is meant to induce a long term slow release of energy.

I guess PWO's come in your different varieties of energy dependent upon the ingredients used.

And personal sensitivity heavily comes into it too - I for instance have no reaction whatsoever to ANS's "Diablo", or a few other stims.

Furthermore it can also come down to what you've been eating and how you take it.

For maximum efffectiveness, try 250ml of water, stir product well (a gravy spinner can work wonders here.) and sip. If too gritty, or too strong, attempt 400ml of water.

Furthermore, this is best taken in an empty stomach, try to take PWO roughly 30 minutes at least before your workout, and force yourself to eat. (depending upon your particular eating schedule).

And if that doesn't work, the reccomended dosage of 1 or scoops is purely based upon market research and as mentioned above, everyone is different, so try 1.5 scoops, and then 2 scoops if all else fails.

Oh - and nothing, NOTHING will ever work when you're already running on very little sleep. So ensure you've had a good kip as well.

I don't have PWO's to swap out sorry so can't help you there but if you're keen pop into your nearest Onesupps or Xplosive store and try Victory Labs DOOM, it's a solid performer with great longevity and performance, plus fantastic appetite suppressing and a little feel-good thrown in for good measure. 


Or if you're feeling like trying a new kid on the block, another great one is the new GHOST,  I've tried it, and I'm VERY stim tolerant, but man something in this ingredient panel found a way to tame my stim dragon, I didn't even sleep very well, and I took it at 10am lol, a sign of a great preworkout in my books. :)


Anyway sorry for the lack of response, I've been trying to sit down write a proper response for a while, but kids kinda ensure this doesn't happen very often lol. 


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Hi Gerbil, Thanks for the response. I have been lifting weights for a while and at 84KG's was accused by folks of being a roider, I am currently on a cut, lost 16KG's in the past 6 Months, around 6 more KG's to go at most before I lean bulk. Now my bench and lifts etc keeps dropping or going back and forth and its just not possible for me to hit the high volumes and intensity caloric deficit see, hence I am finally wanting to try a PWO. Now I remember using the Wizard, was really good but kinda also stops working after a few days. But good stuff. Where can I try samples of these stims? I want to pay a few dollars to try 2 servings of Maybe Doom and Ghost. :)


Thanks for your reply! have a good one.

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The original formula for Mr Hyde was pretty good, but as time has gone by, it has just been watered down more and more, it seems to be just a shitload of caffeine now. 

I've been using the GAT Nitraflex RTDs recently, and have been quite surprised how effective they have been. So I can only assume that the full strength Nitraflex is even better.


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